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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:58 pm
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Here's another obvious influence from NOISE.It's more of an homage actually,to Moebius.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:26 am
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safeguard-|- wrote:
Xex I saw Gilgamesh anime and there was one building which was protected by biorobots which looked like safeguards and even theyr moves where similar :)


i just saw that too, then playing around on youtube. could not find any images, though, but thake a lookie at 01:35 or so at this video. and there are lots of good clips of movements and stuff of theese biorobots in this trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS94Wx83Ppc
(i am so sorry for placing a link to a dubbed trailer here. it hurts)

-- i have never see the series, though --



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:31 pm
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wow, ya, those things looked JUST like exterminators, and they shot lasers from their mouths like the security guards. I also noticed thos guards in the trailer looked a lot like the ones from Digimortal.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:10 pm
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Space Elevator wrote:
I totally agree about the Philip K. Dick stuff. When I first read Volume 1, it reminded me a lot of Blade Runner (the adaptation of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?").

Both had themes of artificial life that poses as human, the architecture of the capital was similar, the mystery of whether Killy is man or machine, his gun looks similar, gangs of SC not unlike the gangs of androids in Blade Runner... lots of similarities. The movie departs from the original story, but either could be considered as influences. Alien had the same director, I think, and there are similarities there too.

Phillip K. Dick's writing is kind of like Nihei's background art, full of ominousness and paranoia.

On an unrelated note (to the Phillip K. Dick angle), does anyone have the game P.N.03? The costume design is a lot like alternate Cibo, with a high collar and a hump in the middle of the shoulderblades. Also the enemies and backgrounds look like what you might find in Blame! if order was restored.


In fact, Blade Runner IS derived from that particular novel. Or at least inspired by it.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:52 pm
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Maybe Nihei was influenced also by two architecs, if not directly at least in some distant or conecptual way, altough I think that he at least knew them, after all, he was an architect too.

The first is Antonio Sant'Elia (1888 - 1916), an italian futurist archicet. He dide young, but, looking at the the drwaings he made, is clear tha he was a great font of inspiration for the science fiction. He was also a font os inspiration for Ridley Scott in Bladerruner.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Sant%27elia

Some images: http://picasaweb.google.com/mecanosfera/AntonioSantElia

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The other architect is Giovanni Battista Piranesi (1720 -1778). This one I don't think was a direct influence for Nihei, ate least not in the drwaings, but in concept. He made a lota of drawings of prisons (carceri), that in the general idea have the same feeling of the Megastructure. Wikipedia says this:

The Prisons (Carceri d'invenzione or 'Imaginary Prisons'), is a series of 16 prints produced in first and second states that show enormous subterranean vaults with stairs and mighty machines.

These in turn influenced Romanticism and Surrealism. While the Vedutisti (or "view makers") such as Canaletto and Bellotto, more often reveled in the beauty of the sunlit place, in Piranesi this vision takes on a Kafkaesque, Escher-like distortion, seemingly erecting fantastic labyrinthian structures, epic in volume, but empty of purpose. They are cappricci -whimsical aggregates of monumental architecture and ruin.


Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piranesi

Some images: http://picasaweb.google.com/mecanosfera ... taPiranesi

Anyway, I don't know if they are really inspirations for Nihei, but when I saw them, immediately I thought of Nihei, so...[/img]



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:23 am
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Tanuu wrote:
wow, ya, those things looked JUST like exterminators, and they shot lasers from their mouths like the security guards. I also noticed thos guards in the trailer looked a lot like the ones from Digimortal.


You guys are right!

If I was Nihei I would be extremely angry.

Say, that reminds me. Here's who I think is a Killy-inspired character.


Genobee from Armored Core Nexus plays the role of the main antagonist. He is a black-clad antihero of gunslinging mecha-piloting skills and rarely speaks.
When he does, it's to say something ponderous and ominous in a monotone voice.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:11 pm
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Does this picture remind anyone of a certain Nihei world?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... n%26sa%3DN

(Click the see full-size image or navigate the site if you can't see what I'm talking about.)


Maybe if it was more grey.


You know what else is similar to BLAME! ?

The story telling methods in the Films: Donnie Darko

and

Karas Part 1 (probably part 2 as well, but I never saw it).

I saw Karas before reading BLAME! and Donnie Darko after and a little bit ago, realized what I thought to be a striking resemblence between all three in that respect.

As Far as I know,

Karas came after BLAME!

while Donnie Darko was either after or late during production.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:23 pm
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Look at this:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6113/96550688bp6.jpg
The first one is Beksiński's painting. You know second one.
I don't know if Beksiński was first to paint this.
Btw... My first post here.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:16 pm
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I can't be the only person who thinks Blame! and the game Baroque are similar, can I?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque_(video_game)

The original PS1 Baroque at least, the remade version lost all the creepy charm of the original.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:48 pm
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Kroni wrote:
I can't be the only person who thinks Blame! and the game Baroque are similar, can I?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque_(video_game)

The original PS1 Baroque at least, the remade version lost all the creepy charm of the original.



I think this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque_%28video_game%29) was the link you meant to post :wink: .

Gosh, I should look into this now! Thanks for bringing this to light, Kroni!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:35 am
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Huh, where is the similarity to Blame!?

I was more astonished about the pic Raphael666 was posting. Good find.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:32 am
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I was in such a rush I didn't even bother posting the right link and my reasons, oops.

Both Baroque and Blame! have amnesiac protagonists with vague objectives and powerful guns who wander around a post apocalyptic world with large, scifi-y areas (though the megastructure > Baroque's tower), both have a very isolated, lonely atmosphere and both have a huge Giger influence.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:46 pm
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in a book i was flipping through (500 essential anime) it says that nihei's work is inspired by his love of french comics (or something to that effect)

this makes some sort of sense as blame! spends a lot of time on the setting which is also a trait of many european comics.

does anybody have any idea of any specific european comic book creators might have influenced blame! i don't know much about french comics so can only think of moebius


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:17 am
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There is a story called Druuna by Paulo Serpieri that kinda reminds me of Blame! but with a ton of weird sex stuff in it. IT ran in Moebius Heavy Metal Magazine.

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Volume 1 (Wich is all ive read) also features a virus outbreak similiar to the one at the start of Biomega.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:42 pm
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You guys should watch "Brazil" by Terry Gilliam.
Great scifi movie (dysotopean, kafkaesk theme). Its not that similar to Blame! but some pictures nearly at the end (all the tubes laying around and the huge columns) reminded me of some Blame! panels.

But nevertheless, great film! "12 Monkeys" by Gilliam was great, this film is, too. (watch the Director's Cut, btw!)

some pics:
http://www.dvdactive.com/images/editori ... brazil.jpg
http://www.scifimoviepage.com/images/brazil1.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/20/movi ... ay-brazil/


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